pyoch Level 1 of the Dungeon [Shop] Wimiahih's Book Shop a parchment of Flame Wave (143 gold) a parchment of Call Imp (63 gold) a parchment of Blink (63 gold) a parchment of Dispel Undead (143 gold) a parchment of Hailstorm (96 gold) a parchment of Soul Splinter (44 gold) a parchment of Swiftness (96 gold) a parchment of Sublimation of Blood (63 gold) (0, 0, D:1) a +0 robe (11, -5, D:1) a +0 dagger a goblin skeleton (14, 14, D:1) a +0 club a goblin skeleton (15, 16, D:1) a frilled lizard corpse (skeletalised by now) (19, 20, D:1) a +0 club (26, 18, D:1) a +0 falchion (27, -1, D:1) a scarab talisman (28, 23, D:1) a bat skeleton (28, 26, D:1) a +0 dagger a hobgoblin skeleton (29, 3, D:1) a jackal corpse (skeletalised by now) (32, 3, D:1) a +0 club a goblin skeleton (32, 5, D:1) a hobgoblin skeleton (37, 12, D:1) a medusa talisman (38, -7, D:1) a bat skeleton (43, 20, D:1) a +0 plate armour (47, 3, D:1) a +0 dagger Level 2 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:2) a +0 club a goblin corpse (skeletalised by now) (2, 39, D:2) a parchment of Passwall (3, 33, D:2) a +0 ring mail (8, 10, D:2) a +0 short sword (11, 46, D:2) a parchment of Apportation (16, 48, D:2) a +0 dagger a rat corpse (skeletalised by now) (22, 18, D:2) a bat corpse (skeletalised by now) (29, 20, D:2) a +0 spear (32, 18, D:2) 3 flux baubles (34, 21, D:2) a parchment of Call Canine Familiar (35, 11, D:2) a ball python corpse (skeletalised by now) a ball python corpse (skeletalised by now) (36, 33, D:2) a +0 whip (38, 45, D:2) a jackal corpse (skeletalised by now) a jackal corpse (skeletalised by now) (41, 23, D:2) a +0 mace (43, 51, D:2) a quokka corpse (skeletalised by now) (47, 37, D:2) a +0 war axe (48, 36, D:2) a parchment of Curse of Agony Level 3 of the Dungeon [Shop] Acvic's Weapon Shop a +0 hand axe (33 gold) a +0 sling (16 gold) 5 darts of disjunction (49 gold) a +1 flail of protection (123 gold) 2 darts of disjunction (19 gold) a +0 trident (38 gold) 3 poisoned darts (19 gold) a +0 quarterstaff (55 gold) 3 large rocks (49 gold) a +0 short sword (33 gold) a +2 dagger of holy wrath (171 gold) [Shop] Xikleit's Distillery 2 potions of resistance (unknown) (280 gold) 2 potions of moonshine (28 gold) 2 potions of attraction (84 gold) a potion of enlightenment (70 gold) a potion of enlightenment (70 gold) [Shop] Mutaghe's Book Boutique a parchment of Sigil of Binding (105 gold) a parchment of Dispel Undead (156 gold) a manual of Shields (960 gold) a parchment of Yara's Violent Unravelling (220 gold) a parchment of Blink (69 gold) a parchment of Animate Dead (156 gold) a parchment of Brom's Barrelling Boulder (156 gold) a parchment of Mercury Arrow (69 gold) a parchment of Anguish (156 gold) [Shop] Wuuwept's Antique Armour Boutique a +0 plate armour (432 gold) a +0 pair of boots (108 gold) a +3 leather armour of cold resistance (576 gold) a +0 scale mail (96 gold) a +0 robe (21 gold) a +0 ring mail of cold resistance (264 gold) (8, -2, D:3) a +0 flail a +0 whip of venom a +0 leather armour (16, -6, D:3) a +0 club a +0 ring mail a +0 dagger a +0 robe (18, 5, D:3) a +0 club (19, -8, D:3) a scarab talisman a ball python skeleton (20, 9, D:3) a +0 short sword (21, 2, D:3) a +0 whip (21, 8, D:3) a frilled lizard skeleton (22, -11, D:3) a jackal skeleton (22, -6, D:3) a felid skeleton (22, -1, D:3) a troll skeleton (23, -7, D:3) a spriggan skeleton (23, -6, D:3) an orc skeleton (23, -5, D:3) a felid skeleton (24, -8, D:3) a goblin skeleton (24, -7, D:3) a draconian skeleton (24, -5, D:3) a dwarf skeleton (24, -4, D:3) an oni skeleton (24, 8, D:3) a +0 short sword a kobold skeleton (25, -7, D:3) a human skeleton (25, -6, D:3) a gnoll skeleton (25, -5, D:3) a centaur skeleton (25, -1, D:3) a +0 short sword (26, -11, D:3) an adder skeleton (26, -6, D:3) a troll skeleton (26, -1, D:3) a quokka skeleton (30, 14, D:3) a +0 dagger an orc skeleton (30, 15, D:3) a +0 leather armour a +0 flail (32, 12, D:3) a +0 scale mail a +0 club (38, -10, D:3) a bat corpse (skeletalised by now) (38, 8, D:3) a +0 dagger (41, 20, D:3) a +0 rapier (42, -2, D:3) a bat skeleton (46, -12, D:3) a +3 leather armour (50, -7, D:3) a +0 trident an orc skeleton (50, -5, D:3) a +0 whip (50, 1, D:3) a +0 short sword a +0 spear a hobgoblin skeleton (51, -5, D:3) a +0 hand axe an orc skeleton (51, -4, D:3) a +0 robe a +2 dagger of electrocution (52, -2, D:3) a human skeleton (55, 1, D:3) a +0 spear (61, -15, D:3) a +0 dagger Level 4 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:4) a +0 flail an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (22, 6, D:4) a parchment of Dragon's Call (24, -19, D:4) a +0 giant club an ogre skeleton (25, -19, D:4) 2 stones a +0 club a kobold skeleton (26, -21, D:4) a +0 robe a +0 flail of holy wrath an orc skeleton (27, -1, D:4) a +0 trident (33, -23, D:4) a +0 long sword (35, -23, D:4) a parchment of Forge Blazeheart Golem (35, 9, D:4) a +0 trident an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (36, 0, D:4) a +0 club a +0 partisan a kobold corpse (skeletalised by now) (37, -1, D:4) a +0 quarterstaff a goblin corpse (skeletalised by now) (37, 6, D:4) a +0 club an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (37, 9, D:4) a +0 dagger an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (37, 10, D:4) a +0 dagger a +0 robe a +0 war axe a +0 leather armour (38, 10, D:4) a +0 dagger a +0 falchion an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (39, 1, D:4) a +0 club (39, 10, D:4) a stone (40, 6, D:4) a stone (49, -18, D:4) a scarab talisman Level 5 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:5) a +0 halberd (0, 1, D:5) a +0 flail a gnoll corpse (skeletalised by now) (0, 2, D:5) a +0 flail (8, -26, D:5) a +0 short sword of electrocution a +3 vampiric rapier a +0 scale mail the elf skeleton of Duvessa (9, -26, D:5) a +0 dagger a +0 robe an adder skeleton (12, -6, D:5) a +0 mace an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (12, 7, D:5) a +0 spear (13, -5, D:5) a +0 flail a +0 scale mail an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (14, -20, D:5) the +7 spear of Evenfall {pain, Fly rF+ Dex-2} Fly: It grants you flight. rF+: It protects you from fire. Dex-2: It affects your dexterity (-2). It cannot be enchanted further. (14, -6, D:5) a +0 club an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (18, -22, D:5) a +0 leather armour (26, -5, D:5) a +0 ring mail (26, 3, D:5) a +0 club (27, 24, D:5) a +0 falchion (28, -20, D:5) a +0 giant club (30, -3, D:5) a hound corpse (skeletalised by now) (31, -22, D:5) a parchment of Shatter (32, -21, D:5) an inkwell talisman (36, -27, D:5) a parchment of Static Discharge (39, -13, D:5) a +0 whip a gnoll skeleton (45, -22, D:5) a +0 robe (52, -19, D:5) 5 boomerangs Level 6 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:6) a parchment of Polar Vortex (7, 3, D:6) a +0 ring mail (11, -7, D:6) a parchment of Fugue of the Fallen (15, -2, D:6) a parchment of Slow (16, 9, D:6) a +0 dagger (18, -3, D:6) a staff of earth (26, 18, D:6) a +0 leather armour (29, 9, D:6) a book of Battle (32, 15, D:6) a +0 giant club an ogre skeleton (33, 18, D:6) a +0 chain mail (34, -6, D:6) a +0 ring mail (35, 9, D:6) an adder skeleton (43, 8, D:6) a +0 rapier Level 7 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:7) a +0 dagger (8, 3, D:7) a +0 war axe (17, 31, D:7) a scroll of teleportation (17, 33, D:7) a +0 plate armour (17, 35, D:7) a scroll of fog (18, 30, D:7) a staff of earth (unseen) (18, 32, D:7) a +0 ring mail (18, 34, D:7) a parchment of Summon Seismosaurus Egg (18, 36, D:7) the ring "Unubu" {rF- rC+ MP+9 Slay+2 SInv} [ring of magical power] rF-: It makes you vulnerable to fire. rC+: It protects you from cold. MP+9: It affects your magic capacity (+9). Slay+2: It affects your accuracy & damage with ranged weapons and melee (+2). SInv: It lets you see invisible. (unseen) (21, 22, D:7) a +0 ring mail (29, 8, D:7) a parchment of Ensorcelled Hibernation (34, 30, D:7) a +3 halberd of freezing a +0 robe (35, 6, D:7) a +0 sling (35, 30, D:7) a +1 hand axe a +0 robe (36, 30, D:7) a +3 spear a +0 robe (39, 5, D:7) a +0 club (41, 25, D:7) a +0 war axe (42, 15, D:7) a parchment of Searing Ray (49, 7, D:7) a +0 dagger a +0 robe an orc skeleton (50, 7, D:7) a +0 whip an orc skeleton (51, 7, D:7) a +0 short sword a +0 chain mail an orc skeleton Level 8 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:8) a +0 robe a +0 dagger a +0 short sword (1, -1, D:8) a +0 club (1, 0, D:8) a +0 hand axe of venom a +0 whip an orc skeleton (1, 1, D:8) a +0 chain mail a +0 club a +0 short sword a +0 dagger an orc skeleton (2, 0, D:8) a +1 dagger of speed a +0 whip a kobold skeleton (3, -1, D:8) 5 stones a +0 dagger (13, -16, D:8) a +0 mace an orc skeleton (15, 8, D:8) a medusa talisman (16, -8, D:8) a +0 trident a +0 leather armour an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (16, -7, D:8) a +0 short sword a +0 club a +0 leather armour an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (16, 8, D:8) a +0 spear a gnoll skeleton (19, 10, D:8) a +0 spear a gnoll skeleton (20, 8, D:8) a +0 club a gnoll skeleton (20, 9, D:8) a +0 leather armour a +0 club a gnoll skeleton (21, 10, D:8) a +2 whip of electrocution a +0 whip a gnoll skeleton (23, -19, D:8) a +0 shortbow (30, -21, D:8) a water moccasin skeleton (30, -6, D:8) a boomerang a goblin skeleton (32, -6, D:8) a boomerang a goblin skeleton (32, -5, D:8) 2 boomerangs a goblin skeleton (32, -4, D:8) a boomerang a goblin skeleton (41, -4, D:8) a +0 spear (45, -2, D:8) a +0 pair of boots Level 9 of the Dungeon (16, 9, D:9) a +0 short sword 5 stones (17, 9, D:9) a +0 dagger (18, 8, D:9) a +0 dagger a kobold skeleton (19, 9, D:9) a +0 dagger 3 stones (21, -3, D:9) 6 stones a +0 dagger a +0 short sword a +0 dagger a kobold skeleton (21, 10, D:9) a +0 club a +0 whip a kobold skeleton a kobold skeleton (22, -5, D:9) a +0 whip a +0 club 3 stones a kobold skeleton (22, -4, D:9) a +0 short sword 2 stones a kobold skeleton (22, -3, D:9) a +0 short sword a +0 dagger 6 stones a +0 short sword a kobold skeleton a kobold skeleton (23, -3, D:9) a +0 short sword 5 stones a +0 short sword a +0 dagger a kobold skeleton a kobold skeleton a kobold skeleton (23, -2, D:9) a +0 dagger of venom 3 stones (23, 6, D:9) a +0 whip 5 stones a kobold corpse (skeletalised by now) (24, -3, D:9) a +1 devious dagger a +0 short sword +0 steam dragon scales a kobold skeleton a kobold skeleton a steam dragon skeleton (24, 1, D:9) a +0 club a +0 leather armour an orc skeleton (25, -1, D:9) a +0 club a +0 dagger a kobold skeleton (26, -3, D:9) a +0 whip (26, -2, D:9) a +0 dagger 2 stones a +0 club (26, 3, D:9) a +0 whip a +0 chain mail an orc skeleton (27, -1, D:9) a +0 short sword a kobold skeleton (28, -7, D:9) a +0 chain mail (28, 4, D:9) a +0 dagger a +0 chain mail (29, -17, D:9) a +0 war axe (29, 5, D:9) a +0 partisan a +0 plate armour an orc skeleton (33, 16, D:9) an inkwell talisman (36, 4, D:9) a +0 spear a +0 trident a +0 scale mail a gnoll skeleton a gnoll skeleton (36, 6, D:9) a +0 club a +0 flail a gnoll skeleton Level 10 of the Dungeon [Shop] Necupruk's Jewellery Shop the scarab talisman of Sam Gurch {rElec MP+4} (763 gold) [scarab talisman] rElec: It insulates you from electricity. MP+4: It affects your magic capacity (+4). a +4 ring of slaying (unknown) (540 gold) the ring "Roxe" {Str-3 Dex+3 Slay+4} (645 gold) [ring of slaying] Str-3: It affects your strength (-3). Dex+3: It affects your dexterity (+3). Slay+4: It affects your accuracy & damage with ranged weapons and melee (+4). a +6 ring of strength (540 gold) an amulet of regeneration (unknown) (450 gold) a +4 ring of slaying (unknown) (540 gold) a +5 ring of evasion (unknown) (540 gold) an amulet of reflection (450 gold) (0, 0, D:10) a parchment of Blink (1, 6, D:10) a +0 whip (9, -3, D:10) a +0 short sword (9, 16, D:10) a +4 spear a +0 robe (10, 16, D:10) a +0 spear a +0 robe (11, 17, D:10) a +0 flail a +0 robe (11, 22, D:10) a +0 leather armour (14, 18, D:10) a maw talisman (32, 4, D:10) a +0 orcbow (34, 21, D:10) a yak skeleton (41, 1, D:10) a +0 ring mail a +1 war axe a tengu skeleton (43, 2, D:10) a tengu skeleton Level 11 of the Dungeon [Shop] Weontoet's Pet Rocks 5 stones (7 gold) a +0 sling (22 gold) 9 stones (13 gold) a tin of tremorstones (2/2) (600 gold) a +1 pair of boots of earth (397 gold) 3 large rocks (67 gold) 3 large rocks (67 gold) (0, 0, D:11) a book of the Spheres (1, 4, D:11) a +0 ring mail (18, 1, D:11) 2 stones (18, 2, D:11) 2 stones (18, 3, D:11) 4 stones (19, 1, D:11) 8 stones (19, 3, D:11) 4 stones (20, 1, D:11) 5 stones (20, 3, D:11) 4 stones (23, 2, D:11) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (24, 0, D:11) a +0 ring mail (28, 6, D:11) a manticore skeleton (32, -11, D:11) 4 large rocks a cyclops skeleton (32, 5, D:11) a +0 giant spiked club a +0 giant club a two-headed ogre skeleton (33, -15, D:11) a +0 animal skin a +1 glaive the gnoll skeleton of Grum (40, 4, D:11) a +0 whip (41, -2, D:11) a +0 ring mail (49, -1, D:11) a +0 ring mail (51, 0, D:11) a +0 club (59, -2, D:11) a +2 buckler Level 12 of the Dungeon (11, 55, D:12) a +0 ring mail (18, 6, D:12) a ring of resist corrosion (19, 49, D:12) a +0 long sword (21, 46, D:12) a +0 robe (25, 42, D:12) a parchment of Bombard (33, 24, D:12) a +0 plate armour a +0 dire flail an orc skeleton (34, 6, D:12) a +0 club (34, 7, D:12) a +0 long sword a +0 chain mail an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (35, 7, D:12) a +0 club a +0 ring mail (35, 38, D:12) a +0 robe (36, 41, D:12) a parchment of Maxwell's Portable Piledriver (37, 9, D:12) a +0 short sword (37, 10, D:12) a +0 leather armour 2 boomerangs a +0 dagger a +0 leather armour a +0 club an orc skeleton an orc skeleton (37, 37, D:12) a parchment of Dispel Undead (38, 10, D:12) a +0 short sword (43, 46, D:12) a +0 partisan (48, 39, D:12) a +0 halberd (54, 47, D:12) a +0 trident a +0 hand axe (59, 52, D:12) a +0 war axe (60, 42, D:12) a +0 pair of gloves (61, 58, D:12) a +0 arbalest Level 13 of the Dungeon (2, 44, D:13) a shapeshifter skeleton (4, -4, D:13) a +0 shortbow a centaur corpse (skeletalised by now) (5, -4, D:13) a +0 orcbow a centaur corpse (skeletalised by now) (5, 20, D:13) a +0 orcbow a centaur skeleton (7, 39, D:13) a parchment of Spellspark Servitor (8, 8, D:13) a +0 shortbow a +0 orcbow a centaur skeleton a centaur skeleton (8, 10, D:13) a +0 shortbow (11, 45, D:13) 2 large rocks (13, 29, D:13) a ring of magical power (13, 30, D:13) a +0 robe (15, 9, D:13) 5 large rocks (15, 19, D:13) a human skeleton (16, 19, D:13) a human skeleton (16, 20, D:13) a +0 plate armour a +0 long sword an orc skeleton (17, 28, D:13) a human corpse (skeletalised by now) (19, 22, D:13) a +0 trident (19, 26, D:13) a +0 dagger a +0 robe a human corpse (skeletalised by now) a human corpse (skeletalised by now) (20, 23, D:13) a +0 flail (20, 25, D:13) a +2 long sword a +0 chain mail a +0 kite shield a +0 dagger a +0 robe a human corpse (skeletalised by now) (21, 25, D:13) a +0 great sword a +0 chain mail (23, 0, D:13) a spider talisman (23, 27, D:13) a +3 short sword of venom a +0 plate armour an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (24, 54, D:13) a +0 shortbow (25, 7, D:13) a troll skeleton (30, 4, D:13) a parchment of Summon Mana Viper (40, 3, D:13) a parchment of Cigotuvi's Putrefaction (52, 19, D:13) a +0 shortbow a centaur skeleton (52, 46, D:13) a manticore corpse (skeletalised by now) (53, 46, D:13) a troll corpse (skeletalised by now) (56, 15, D:13) a +0 pair of gloves Level 14 of the Dungeon [Shop] Veib Cump's Magic Scroll Boutique 3 scrolls of enchant armour (292 gold) a scroll of amnesia (52 gold) a scroll of identify (26 gold) a scroll of identify (26 gold) a scroll of amnesia (52 gold) a scroll of vulnerability (52 gold) a scroll of amnesia (52 gold) (0, 0, D:14) a catoblepas skeleton (4, 0, D:14) a +2 scimitar of flaming (11, 31, D:14) a +0 battleaxe (14, 2, D:14) a +0 giant club a +0 giant spiked club a two-headed ogre skeleton (18, 28, D:14) a +0 scale mail (22, -5, D:14) a +0 leather armour (23, 30, D:14) an ugly thing skeleton an ugly thing skeleton (24, 29, D:14) an ugly thing skeleton (24, 30, D:14) an ugly thing skeleton (40, -11, D:14) a +0 orcbow (40, 11, D:14) an ugly thing skeleton (41, 13, D:14) an ugly thing skeleton (42, 11, D:14) an ugly thing skeleton (45, 31, D:14) a +0 hand axe a +0 leather armour (46, 31, D:14) a +0 hand axe a +0 robe (48, 29, D:14) a +0 orcbow (50, 28, D:14) a +0 hand axe a +0 leather armour (56, 15, D:14) a parchment of Arcjolt Level 15 of the Dungeon (13, 16, D:15) a +0 long sword a +0 leather armour a +0 kite shield (13, 18, D:15) a scroll of teleportation (15, -38, D:15) a +0 buckler a tengu corpse (skeletalised by now) (17, 17, D:15) a +0 great mace a +0 ring mail a ring of see invisible (24, -31, D:15) an ugly thing corpse (skeletalised by now) (26, -27, D:15) a +0 hand axe (29, -32, D:15) an ugly thing corpse (skeletalised by now) the Ecumenical Temple Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts (0, 0, Lair:1) a rime drake corpse (skeletalised by now) (0, 36, Lair:1) a +0 arbalest (5, 28, Lair:1) a wyvern skeleton (6, 25, Lair:1) a yak skeleton (6, 26, Lair:1) a yak skeleton a yak skeleton (6, 29, Lair:1) a cane toad skeleton (6, 30, Lair:1) a bullfrog skeleton (7, 26, Lair:1) a yak skeleton (26, 38, Lair:1) a parchment of Borgnjor's Vile Clutch (31, 33, Lair:1) a bullfrog skeleton (32, 22, Lair:1) a +2 quarterstaff of speed (36, 18, Lair:1) a +0 chain mail (37, 10, Lair:1) a +0 great sword (38, 8, Lair:1) a black bear corpse (skeletalised by now) (39, 8, Lair:1) a black bear corpse (skeletalised by now) (40, 12, Lair:1) a black bear corpse (skeletalised by now) (40, 13, Lair:1) a komodo dragon skeleton (59, 20, Lair:1) a water moccasin corpse (skeletalised by now) (60, 25, Lair:1) a +4 heavy falchion Level 2 of the Lair of Beasts (0, 0, Lair:2) a +0 dagger (1, 0, Lair:2) a cane toad skeleton (2, 0, Lair:2) a bullfrog skeleton (2, 1, Lair:2) a black bear skeleton (2, 2, Lair:2) a blink frog skeleton a rime drake skeleton (3, 2, Lair:2) a komodo dragon skeleton (3, 29, Lair:2) a cane toad corpse (skeletalised by now) (4, 3, Lair:2) a blink frog skeleton (6, 8, Lair:2) a black bear skeleton (7, 9, Lair:2) a yak skeleton (7, 10, Lair:2) a yak skeleton (7, 11, Lair:2) a yak skeleton (7, 13, Lair:2) a +0 quarterstaff of freezing (24, 7, Lair:2) a +0 sling (26, -21, Lair:2) 5 potions of lignification a potion of attraction 2 potions of magic 4 potions of moonshine (27, 31, Lair:2) a +0 robe (29, -4, Lair:2) a parchment of Blink (38, 14, Lair:2) a parchment of Airstrike Level 3 of the Lair of Beasts (0, 0, Lair:3) a +0 glaive (3, -30, Lair:3) a death yak skeleton (9, -12, Lair:3) a bullfrog skeleton (10, -11, Lair:3) a bog body corpse (11, 0, Lair:3) a staff of necromancy an amulet of faith a +6 ring of strength a ring of protection from fire a ring of positive energy an amulet of dissipation a ring of protection from fire (13, -1, Lair:3) a parchment of Ensorcelled Hibernation (18, -30, Lair:3) a yak corpse (skeletalised by now) (18, -29, Lair:3) a yak corpse (skeletalised by now) (19, -21, Lair:3) a +0 athame (32, 17, Lair:3) a polar bear corpse (skeletalised by now) (33, -29, Lair:3) a ring of flight (33, -28, Lair:3) a cane toad corpse (skeletalised by now) (37, -35, Lair:3) a +0 club (37, -29, Lair:3) a hydra corpse (skeletalised by now) (39, -31, Lair:3) a water moccasin corpse (skeletalised by now) (44, 9, Lair:3) a hound skeleton (52, -14, Lair:3) a yak skeleton (53, -17, Lair:3) a yak skeleton (53, -15, Lair:3) a bullfrog skeleton (54, -16, Lair:3) a yak corpse (skeletalised by now)