dungeon1234 Level 1 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:1) a +0 club a kobold corpse (skeletalised by now) (1, 3, D:1) a +0 hand axe (5, 23, D:1) a ball python corpse (skeletalised by now) (5, 29, D:1) a quokka corpse (skeletalised by now) (11, 3, D:1) a +0 dagger a goblin corpse (skeletalised by now) (31, 11, D:1) a rat corpse (skeletalised by now) (34, 3, D:1) a ball python corpse (skeletalised by now) Level 2 of the Dungeon (8, 4, D:2) a +0 short sword 5 stones a kobold skeleton (12, 10, D:2) a ball python skeleton (13, 17, D:2) an adder corpse (skeletalised by now) (15, -4, D:2) a +0 dagger a kobold skeleton (15, 31, D:2) an adder corpse (skeletalised by now) (16, 20, D:2) a quill talisman (unseen) (16, 28, D:2) a hobgoblin corpse (skeletalised by now) (20, 8, D:2) a bat corpse (skeletalised by now) (37, 4, D:2) a +0 short sword (39, 3, D:2) a +0 leather armour (43, 1, D:2) a +0 dagger Level 3 of the Dungeon [Shop] Pejaraoch's Weapon Shoppe a +0 whip (30 gold) 5 poisoned darts (36 gold) a +0 flail (42 gold) a +0 spear (36 gold) a +0 long sword (42 gold) a +1 trident of venom (134 gold) a +0 short sword (36 gold) 3 curare-tipped darts (43 gold) a +0 shortbow (36 gold) a +0 hand axe (36 gold) a +0 short sword (36 gold) a +2 heavy sling (176 gold) (0, 0, D:3) a +0 chain mail (12, -22, D:3) a +0 whip a kobold corpse (skeletalised by now) (32, -9, D:3) a hobgoblin corpse (skeletalised by now) (35, -2, D:3) a quokka corpse (skeletalised by now) (45, -22, D:3) a +0 mace a +0 ring mail the human corpse of Terence (skeletalised by now) Level 4 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:4) a +0 falchion (1, 4, D:4) a +0 leather armour (5, -1, D:4) a +0 ring mail (14, 38, D:4) a +0 chain mail (19, 37, D:4) a +0 quarterstaff (21, 42, D:4) a +0 dagger a +0 flail (23, 10, D:4) a +0 short sword (24, 12, D:4) a ball python corpse (skeletalised by now) (25, 10, D:4) a jackal corpse (skeletalised by now) (26, 13, D:4) a +0 ring mail (27, 6, D:4) a +0 dagger a +0 ring mail the goblin corpse of Ijyb (skeletalised by now) (27, 8, D:4) a jackal corpse (skeletalised by now) (31, 7, D:4) a +0 spear (39, 33, D:4) a +0 club Level 5 of the Dungeon (2, 12, D:5) a +0 falchion (8, 25, D:5) a +0 short sword an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (9, 25, D:5) a +0 club (9, 26, D:5) a +0 falchion (9, 27, D:5) a +0 whip a +0 dagger a +0 robe an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (10, 4, D:5) a +1 vampiric hand axe (still there?) an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (still there?) (14, 14, D:5) a +0 club (20, 21, D:5) a +0 chain mail (25, 2, D:5) a +0 club an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (26, 2, D:5) a +0 club a +0 leather armour an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (27, 1, D:5) a +0 dagger a +0 robe an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) Level 6 of the Dungeon [Shop] Deschod's Assorted Antiques a scroll of torment (247 gold) a +0 orcbow (104 gold) a scroll of identify (52 gold) a phantom mirror (1040 gold) a potion of heal wounds (208 gold) a phantom mirror (1040 gold) a +0 short sword (78 gold) a phantom mirror (1040 gold) [Shop] Atiguh's Weapon Boutique a +2 halberd of venom (268 gold) a +0 falchion (48 gold) a +0 flail (56 gold) a +5 mace of draining (518 gold) a +0 dagger (32 gold) a +0 rapier (88 gold) a +0 falchion (48 gold) a +0 sling (24 gold) a +0 long sword (56 gold) a +0 war axe (56 gold) [Shop] Bude's Distillery 2 potions of enlightenment (120 gold) a potion of might (48 gold) a potion of curing (36 gold) a potion of curing (36 gold) a potion of curing (36 gold) a potion of curing (36 gold) a potion of curing (36 gold) (1, 22, D:6) a +0 partisan (4, 25, D:6) a +0 scale mail (7, 22, D:6) a quill talisman (8, 18, D:6) an iguana corpse (skeletalised by now) (12, 20, D:6) a hound corpse (skeletalised by now) (21, 18, D:6) a +0 robe (24, -32, D:6) a +0 mace (26, 30, D:6) a +0 chain mail (32, -21, D:6) a +3 trident of draining a +0 robe (33, -9, D:6) an adder skeleton (38, -19, D:6) a +0 club (44, -1, D:6) a +0 giant club an ogre corpse (skeletalised by now) (44, 12, D:6) an iguana corpse (skeletalised by now) Level 7 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:7) a bullfrog corpse (skeletalised by now) (2, -26, D:7) a +4 flail a +0 robe (3, 8, D:7) a howler monkey corpse (skeletalised by now) a howler monkey corpse (skeletalised by now) (4, -23, D:7) a +0 scimitar a +0 robe (5, -23, D:7) a +2 halberd (still there?) a +0 robe (still there?) (17, -17, D:7) a +0 hand axe a +0 flail an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (19, -17, D:7) a +0 whip an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (20, 11, D:7) a +0 club a +0 dagger a +0 robe an orc skeleton (22, -10, D:7) a +0 whip (22, -9, D:7) a +0 whip (22, 11, D:7) a +0 dagger a +0 leather armour (26, -30, D:7) 12 gold pieces (26, -29, D:7) 11 gold pieces (27, -29, D:7) 17 gold pieces (27, -28, D:7) 16 gold pieces (28, -30, D:7) 9 gold pieces (28, -29, D:7) 8 gold pieces (28, -28, D:7) 5 gold pieces (33, 6, D:7) a +0 mace (34, 6, D:7) a +0 war axe a +0 leather armour a gnoll corpse (skeletalised by now) (36, -18, D:7) a +0 trident (36, 5, D:7) a +0 whip a gnoll corpse (skeletalised by now) (36, 6, D:7) a +0 spear (37, -3, D:7) a +0 robe a +0 flail (37, -2, D:7) a +3 dagger a +0 robe a +0 war axe a +0 robe (37, -1, D:7) a +0 spear a +0 robe (39, 5, D:7) a +0 spear (40, -29, D:7) a +0 ring mail (42, 1, D:7) a water moccasin skeleton Level 8 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:8) a quill talisman (4, -53, D:8) a +0 morningstar an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (8, -6, D:8) a +0 halberd a gnoll corpse (skeletalised by now) (8, -4, D:8) a +0 whip a gnoll corpse (skeletalised by now) (9, -7, D:8) a +0 whip a +0 robe (11, -6, D:8) a +0 halberd (19, 0, D:8) a +0 falchion (24, -3, D:8) a parchment of Cause Fear (30, 0, D:8) a +1 scimitar of flaming (37, -21, D:8) a +0 great sword Level 9 of the Dungeon (2, -8, D:9) a +0 short sword a kobold corpse (skeletalised by now) (3, -11, D:9) a +0 dagger (3, -8, D:9) a +0 dagger a kobold corpse (skeletalised by now) (6, -7, D:9) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (12, -12, D:9) a +0 halberd a +0 plate armour an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (13, 14, D:9) a wyvern corpse (skeletalised by now) (14, -14, D:9) a +0 dire flail a +0 plate armour an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (15, -13, D:9) a +0 short sword a +0 plate armour (18, -2, D:9) a yak corpse (skeletalised by now) (19, 6, D:9) a +0 dagger a +0 robe an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (20, 6, D:9) a yak corpse (skeletalised by now) (23, 10, D:9) a +3 great sword (still there?) a +0 robe (still there?) a +0 robe (still there?) a +3 scimitar of freezing (still there?) a +0 robe (still there?) a +0 dagger (still there?) (28, -15, D:9) a +0 leather armour (28, 28, D:9) a howler monkey corpse (skeletalised by now) (31, 29, D:9) a howler monkey corpse (skeletalised by now) (40, 1, D:9) a black bear corpse (skeletalised by now) (42, 6, D:9) a +0 leather armour (44, -5, D:9) a +0 robe (44, 26, D:9) a +0 hand axe (45, 11, D:9) a +3 spear (47, 8, D:9) a +0 great mace an amulet of chemistry a +0 robe (49, 11, D:9) a +1 short sword of draining the Ecumenical Temple Level 1 of the Orcish Mines [Shop] Zivoos's General Store a parchment of Forge Blazeheart Golem (221 gold) 2 scrolls of torment (344 gold) a potion of ambrosia (145 gold) a +0 ring mail (68 gold) a parchment of Hoarfrost Cannonade (312 gold) a phantom mirror (680 gold) a book of Death (960 gold) a +0 quarterstaff (85 gold) [Shop] Xocyl's Book Boutique a parchment of Summon Small Mammal (60 gold) a parchment of Lesser Beckoning (87 gold) a parchment of Animate Dead (195 gold) a parchment of Hoarfrost Cannonade (276 gold) a parchment of Cause Fear (195 gold) a parchment of Yara's Violent Unravelling (276 gold) a parchment of Mephitic Cloud (132 gold) a parchment of Disjunction (627 gold) a parchment of Shatter (780 gold) a parchment of Searing Ray (87 gold) a parchment of Iskenderun's Mystic Blast (195 gold) a parchment of Orb of Destruction (492 gold) (0, 0, Orc:1) a +0 ring mail a +0 short sword (1, 1, Orc:1) a +0 scale mail a +0 dagger (2, -5, Orc:1) a +0 chain mail a +0 dagger an orc skeleton (2, 1, Orc:1) a +0 mace of protection (4, 1, Orc:1) a +0 leather armour a +0 falchion (5, 2, Orc:1) a +0 leather armour a +0 hand axe (9, 0, Orc:1) a +1 war axe of freezing (still there?) a +0 orcbow (still there?) a +0 chain mail (still there?) an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (still there?) (11, -8, Orc:1) a +0 club (12, 0, Orc:1) a +0 club an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (15, 1, Orc:1) a +0 battleaxe a +0 plate armour an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (16, 1, Orc:1) a +0 war axe a +0 leather armour an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (17, -6, Orc:1) a +0 leather armour a +0 whip an orc skeleton (17, -5, Orc:1) a +0 war axe an orc skeleton (17, 1, Orc:1) a +0 great sword a +0 chain mail a +0 falchion a +0 battleaxe a +0 chain mail an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (18, -5, Orc:1) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (18, 1, Orc:1) a +0 dagger a +0 leather armour (19, -5, Orc:1) a +0 flail (20, -4, Orc:1) a +0 dagger (20, -3, Orc:1) a +0 club (21, -5, Orc:1) a +0 whip a +0 arbalest an orc skeleton (21, -4, Orc:1) a +0 robe a +0 dagger a +0 robe a +0 dagger (21, -2, Orc:1) a +2 long sword of draining a +0 plate armour an orc skeleton (22, -7, Orc:1) a +0 ring mail a +0 short sword (22, -3, Orc:1) a +0 trident a troll skeleton (22, -2, Orc:1) a +0 dagger an orc skeleton (23, -7, Orc:1) a +0 leather armour a +0 falchion an orc skeleton (62, -9, Orc:1) a +0 whip (62, -8, Orc:1) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (62, -7, Orc:1) a +1 orcbow of flaming (still there?) a kobold corpse (skeletalised by now) (still there?) (63, -8, Orc:1) a +0 whip (63, -7, Orc:1) a +0 long sword a +0 plate armour an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) Level 2 of the Orcish Mines [Shop] Qypog's Antique Armour Shop the +5 ring mail of Pantheism {rF- rC+ Str+2} (964 gold) rF-: It makes you vulnerable to fire. rC+: It protects you from cold. Str+2: It affects your strength (+2). It cannot be enchanted further. a +0 chain mail (144 gold) a +0 robe (21 gold) a +8 chain mail of ponderousness (552 gold) a +0 pair of boots of earth (516 gold) a +0 plate armour (432 gold) a +0 ring mail (96 gold) a +0 robe (21 gold) [Shop] Fygauf's Antique Weapon Shop a +0 spear (81 gold) a +0 vampiric lajatang (1269 gold) a +0 long sword (94 gold) a +0 club (13 gold) the +8 scimitar of Puoth {drain, Str+4 Int+3 Dex-3 Stlth+} (1863 gold) Str+4: It affects your strength (+4). Int+3: It affects your intelligence (+3). Dex-3: It affects your dexterity (-3). Stlth+: It makes you more stealthy. It cannot be enchanted further. a +0 short sword of speed (297 gold) a +0 spear of flaming (199 gold) a +6 falchion of flaming (1009 gold) [Shop] Rextetzamm's Distillery a potion of might (66 gold) a potion of curing (49 gold) a potion of curing (49 gold) a potion of might (66 gold) a potion of heal wounds (132 gold) a potion of curing (49 gold) [Shop] Haqe Gaa's Book Boutique a parchment of Dispersal (350 gold) a parchment of Discord (585 gold) a parchment of Inner Flame (123 gold) a parchment of Animate Dead (182 gold) a parchment of Ozocubu's Refrigeration (459 gold) a parchment of Cigotuvi's Putrefaction (182 gold) a parchment of Confusing Touch (123 gold) a parchment of Forge Phalanx Beetle (350 gold) a parchment of Infestation (585 gold) a parchment of Polar Vortex (728 gold) a parchment of Mephitic Cloud (123 gold) (8, 12, Orc:2) a +0 giant club (9, 15, Orc:2) a +0 trident a +0 plate armour (10, 16, Orc:2) a +0 giant club (10, 20, Orc:2) a +0 club (12, 18, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (12, 22, Orc:2) a +0 arbalest a +0 long sword a +0 chain mail a +0 whip (13, 17, Orc:2) a +0 giant club (13, 19, Orc:2) a +2 falchion of holy wrath (still there?) a +0 leather armour (still there?) a +0 club (still there?) a +0 troll leather armour (still there?) an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (still there?) a troll corpse (skeletalised by now) (still there?) (13, 22, Orc:2) a +0 hand axe an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (14, 22, Orc:2) a +0 hand axe a +0 ring mail (20, 0, Orc:2) a +0 giant club (21, -3, Orc:2) a +3 dagger (still there?) a +0 robe (still there?) an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (still there?) (21, 2, Orc:2) a +0 giant club (22, -1, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (22, 0, Orc:2) a +2 dagger of flaming a +0 dagger a +0 robe a +0 robe a +0 club an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (22, 1, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (22, 2, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (23, -5, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (23, -3, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (23, 5, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (23, 6, Orc:2) a +0 giant spiked club (24, 6, Orc:2) a +0 giant spiked club (25, -5, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (25, 5, Orc:2) a +0 mace (26, -5, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe an orc corpse (skeletalised by now) (26, 9, Orc:2) a +0 flail a +0 robe (27, -4, Orc:2) a +0 club a +0 dagger a +0 robe (27, 7, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (28, 7, Orc:2) a +0 giant club (29, -5, Orc:2) a +0 flail a +0 robe (29, 6, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (29, 8, Orc:2) a +0 giant club (30, -6, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe a +0 hand axe a +0 leather armour (30, -5, Orc:2) a +0 flail a +0 club a +0 robe a +0 dagger a +0 robe an ogre corpse (skeletalised by now) (30, 9, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe a +0 dagger a +0 robe (30, 10, Orc:2) a +0 athame a +0 robe (30, 11, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe a +0 halberd a +0 robe (31, -11, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (31, 6, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (31, 10, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe a +0 giant club (32, -17, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (32, 8, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (32, 9, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe a +0 dagger a +0 robe (32, 14, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (34, 7, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (42, 30, Orc:2) a +0 scimitar of holy wrath (still there?) a +4 chain mail of cold resistance (still there?) a +0 kite shield of reflection (still there?) (49, 31, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (50, 32, Orc:2) a +0 battleaxe a +0 plate armour (51, 31, Orc:2) a +0 hand axe a +0 ring mail (52, 31, Orc:2) a +0 hand axe (57, 23, Orc:2) a +0 giant spiked club Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts (3, 25, Lair:1) a bullfrog corpse (skeletalised by now) (7, 40, Lair:1) a +0 robe (8, 0, Lair:1) a blink frog skeleton (11, 25, Lair:1) a +0 robe (15, 20, Lair:1) a +0 robe (18, 10, Lair:1) a +0 rapier (18, 36, Lair:1) 3 boomerangs Level 2 of the Lair of Beasts (1, -7, Lair:2) a +0 whip (2, -11, Lair:2) a +0 leather armour (6, 2, Lair:2) a +0 demon whip of venom a +0 leather armour the demonspawn skeleton of Amaemon (14, -29, Lair:2) a +0 spear (29, -15, Lair:2) a +0 ring mail (34, -9, Lair:2) an elephant corpse (skeletalised by now) (35, -10, Lair:2) an elephant corpse (skeletalised by now) (35, -9, Lair:2) a komodo dragon corpse (skeletalised by now) (36, -4, Lair:2) a yak skeleton (38, -1, Lair:2) an elephant skeleton (39, -4, Lair:2) a komodo dragon skeleton (42, 3, Lair:2) a +0 robe (45, -11, Lair:2) a cane toad skeleton (46, -13, Lair:2) a blink frog corpse (skeletalised by now) (47, -14, Lair:2) a blink frog corpse (skeletalised by now) a blink frog skeleton (47, -13, Lair:2) a blink frog skeleton (47, -8, Lair:2) a blink frog skeleton Level 3 of the Lair of Beasts (0, 0, Lair:3) a yak corpse (skeletalised by now) (3, -4, Lair:3) a yak corpse (skeletalised by now) (3, 27, Lair:3) a black mamba corpse (skeletalised by now) (24, -4, Lair:3) a +0 scimitar (26, -1, Lair:3) a wolf corpse (skeletalised by now) Level 4 of the Lair of Beasts (0, 0, Lair:4) an elephant corpse (skeletalised by now) (1, 1, Lair:4) an elephant corpse (skeletalised by now) (7, 6, Lair:4) a komodo dragon corpse (skeletalised by now) (12, 9, Lair:4) a +0 dagger (14, 2, Lair:4) 11 gold pieces (43, 27, Lair:4) a yak skeleton (44, 27, Lair:4) a yak skeleton (44, 33, Lair:4) a wyvern skeleton (45, 27, Lair:4) a yak skeleton (46, 27, Lair:4) an elephant skeleton (46, 28, Lair:4) a yak skeleton (46, 29, Lair:4) an elephant skeleton Level 5 of the Lair of Beasts (0, 0, Lair:5) a yak corpse (skeletalised by now) a yak corpse (skeletalised by now) (1, -1, Lair:5) a komodo dragon corpse (skeletalised by now) (3, -36, Lair:5) a +0 plate armour (11, -27, Lair:5) a +0 robe (17, -16, Lair:5) a +0 flail (22, 16, Lair:5) a black mamba corpse (skeletalised by now) (26, -13, Lair:5) a +0 ring mail (29, -16, Lair:5) a +0 quarterstaff (29, 0, Lair:5) a +0 quarterstaff (39, 0, Lair:5) a cane toad corpse (skeletalised by now) (46, -18, Lair:5) a polar bear skeleton (47, -17, Lair:5) a yak skeleton a wolf skeleton (48, -17, Lair:5) an elf skeleton (50, -16, Lair:5) a +1 short sword of venom the kobold skeleton of Sonja (52, -13, Lair:5) a human skeleton (53, -33, Lair:5) a death yak corpse (skeletalised by now) (53, -27, Lair:5) a black bear skeleton (53, -22, Lair:5) a black bear skeleton a centaur skeleton (54, -33, Lair:5) a minotaur skeleton (56, -17, Lair:5) a centaur skeleton (57, -36, Lair:5) a catoblepas corpse (skeletalised by now) (58, -29, Lair:5) a tengu skeleton (58, -25, Lair:5) a +0 dagger (60, -34, Lair:5) an elf skeleton (60, -28, Lair:5) a draconian skeleton (60, -24, Lair:5) a +0 dagger of protection (62, -26, Lair:5) a kobold skeleton (64, -37, Lair:5) a centaur skeleton (64, -30, Lair:5) a hydra corpse (skeletalised by now) (64, -20, Lair:5) an elephant skeleton (65, -36, Lair:5) a troll skeleton (65, -29, Lair:5) a centaur skeleton (66, -30, Lair:5) an orc skeleton (68, -25, Lair:5) a goblin skeleton Level 1 of the Swamp (15, -10, Swamp:1) a +0 battleaxe (16, 13, Swamp:1) a +0 great mace (21, 3, Swamp:1) a granite talisman (24, 3, Swamp:1) a +0 spear (25, 3, Swamp:1) a parchment of Dimensional Bullseye (26, 2, Swamp:1) a +0 quarterstaff a +0 robe (27, -6, Swamp:1) a +0 spear (28, -13, Swamp:1) a +0 leather armour (29, -4, Swamp:1) a +0 spear (31, 4, Swamp:1) a +0 rapier a +0 robe a +0 buckler a +0 dagger a +0 robe (36, 20, Swamp:1) an alligator corpse (skeletalised by now) (46, 11, Swamp:1) a parchment of Mercury Arrow Level 2 of the Swamp (8, -18, Swamp:2) a +0 robe a +0 quarterstaff (18, -17, Swamp:2) a +0 war axe Level 3 of the Swamp (0, 3, Swamp:3) a +0 club (2, -1, Swamp:3) an alligator corpse (22, -8, Swamp:3) 32 gold pieces (22, -3, Swamp:3) 17 gold pieces Level 1 of the Spider Nest (22, -1, Spider:1) the +7 orcbow of Shame {drain, rC++ Will+ Int+2} rC++: It greatly protects you from cold. Will+: It increases your willpower. Int+2: It affects your intelligence (+2). It cannot be enchanted further. (unseen) (23, 8, Spider:1) a +0 battleaxe a +0 chain mail (33, -16, Spider:1) a +0 scimitar (39, 16, Spider:1) a +0 pair of gloves (50, -10, Spider:1) a +0 chain mail Level 2 of the Spider Nest (0, 0, Spider:2) a +0 plate armour (5, -8, Spider:2) a +4 ring mail (unseen) (6, 0, Spider:2) a +0 arbalest (13, 2, Spider:2) a +0 trident (14, -6, Spider:2) the serpent talisman of Nemelex Xobeh's Esteem {rN+ Str+2} [serpent talisman] rN+: It protects you from negative energy. Str+2: It affects your strength (+2). (unseen) (16, -16, Spider:2) a +0 plate armour of fire resistance (unseen) (23, 4, Spider:2) a +0 leather armour Level 3 of the Spider Nest (0, 0, Spider:3) a +0 long sword (3, -8, Spider:3) a jorogumo corpse (skeletalised by now)